#yeah i'm bringing back the negativity tag for this i'm genuinely so mad

[belphegorbillickin]

Okay, but I can definitely imagine Barb/Dia doing that. It seems like quite a possibility. But wasn't dying mc's own fault though? Like,, Barbatos did warn,,, unless he knew this was gonna happen and mc was DUMB AND STUPID enough to show up to everyone like: "hi." and possibly be dumb enough to get killed. Idk lol I forgot this part.

But what you said about Beel, I really like that. I think you even mentioned belphie guilt tripping you in your yandere hcs, and trying to make you completely depend on him?? I like those possibilities. Mammon though,, too soft. Like you said, they've robbed him a lot. He could have had so much potential to be a dark character. Similarly Levi omg.

The brothers are the embodiments of the 7 deadly sins, yet, tbh, I haven't seen too much of this side of them. At least, not like how'd I expect. Leviathan, for eg. Envy. I don't recall seeing his sin playing out anywhere except in the TSL Quiz thingy. I mean, it's been toned down a lot for someone who's the literal embodiment is envy. Idk I just don't feel he's like that? As from what I found: Envy (Latin: invidia), like greed and lust, is characterized by an insatiable desire. It can be described as a sad or resentful covetousness towards the traits or possessions of someone else. The struggle aroused by envy has three stages: during the first stage, the envious person attempts to lower another's reputation; in the middle stage, the envious person receives either "joy at another's misfortune"(if he succeeds in defaming the other person) or "grief at another's prosperity" (if he fails); the third stage is hatred because "sorrow causes hatred".[38]

Envy is said to be the motivation behind Cain murdering his brother, Abel, as Cain envied Abel because God favored Abel's sacrifice over Cain's.

They toned him down a little too much?? If this game has actually been inspired by demons and the 7 deadly sins, they could at least make them similar to the demons, at least in some way. I'm not that far into the game yet, but so far that I've played, I haven't seen much. As for a demon who is the embodiment of envy... I wish to see more. Levi is capable of A LOT.

Similarly, Satan. I sometimes wonder why is he even called the Avatar of Wrath when we hardly see it?? The only time I remember is him losing his calm during the whole body swap event. The fact Satan got mad at us refusing a pact actually made me think that he was the sin "wrath", but idk now. And the way it was said that "every smile is an act", I really like that concept too. But I don't think I've paid much attention to see where it played out. Sigh now Satan simps for cats like,,, please show me your dark/evil side sir.

The way you said Barb and Dia took part in a torture dungeon, I want to see more of that too. If they're demons, wouldn't they have caused SOME sort of bloodshed in a way? Especially if they're the strongest demons. Killing humans, eating them, or I even like to think doing the same to their own race. Torturing... Seems like something that every demon's blood would contain lmao, I'm not answering questions bye.

And I believe so too. The human seems like a pawn... I feel the demons would use humans for entertainment and their own purposes, while keeping up the facade of loving them. It's easy, since demons are manipulative. In that case, losing the human whether by their own hands or not would go like: "Oh well, that's unfortunate. Time for another human."

But if they REALLY did love you, I feel they'd still be manipulative. Like you said. Corrupting/spoiling the human so much to the point that they'd just HAVE to depend on them. I feel they'd also have yandere tendencies, or be "protective". Like, then I feel they really wouldn't want to let you go, despite knowing how much it can ruin your innocence.

I also don't like how everyone is after mc like "uwuwu master". The human is still a weakling despite having pacts, plus, the pacts aren't even demanding the human's soul or anything. I don't get why they let mc walk over them when they are CLEARLY much stronger? If I were a demon I'd do the opposite lmao. Making the human seem as if they are controlling me, but it's the opposite. I don't think a mere pact can change the fact that the demon's stronger,,, esp if the pact didn't demand the human's soul/life/whatever.

Also, thank you! Things got better for me :)) and also,

💫✨💕send this to ten bloggers you think are wonderful. keep the game going 💕✨

Ofc you don't have to do this, but I got this, and it really made me happy, so here ^^

Oh btw in lesson...56 I think?? Just gonna tag this as a spoiler, but where for whatever reason Satan was "Sully" and the angel Lucifer asked him whether he liked books, let me just say I haven't even played it that far yet, but Satan going, "...Every book here is precious."

TOUCHED ME SO BAD LIKE. I DON'T KNOW IT REALLY MADE ME SOFT LMAO HE'S JUST SO okay I'll stop 🏃– 🍹

It's been a while since I've thought in-depth about the whole time traveling thing tbh, but couldn't Barbatos generally see the outcomes of the world?

We went back because they wanted to know who opened it, but considering Diavolo's the ruler of hell who turned Lilith human and Barbatos is basically the ruler of time & practically the universe I believe they already knew Lilith did it since it had to be "blood related" basically.

Barbatos also knows he can stitch together timelines and get of "extra" MCs essentially, so I believe he'd take that into account. I'm not saying MC getting killed was 100% part of the plan, but that they didn't care of MC was traumatized because they knew they could bring them back if necessary.

Imo the real goal wasn't to find out who did it, but to avoid breaking the family's bonds and devotion to Diavolo. The way it worked out was incredibly convenient and "coincidentally" a huge upgrade for Diavolo that kept the status quo and made him look good (or at least better) to Belphie and Beel without making Lucifer choose.

We see that kind of repeat later when Diavolo withdraws from the play because he was worried Lucifer wouldn't be as loyal. That's also why Lucifer gets that warning from Barbatos.

I think a huge part of why Levi's characterization is like that is because not enough people like him enough to tolerate it tbh. Even Mammon and Lucifer stans complain about the other characters hogging screen time and a lot of them admit to feeling bad for other fans. Levi is pretty much always second to last popularity wise.

I think he'd actually be more liked if they focused more on the jealously instead of making almost every interaction otaku/Ruri-chan related, but it's a bit too late now. I really, really hate how they just pretend otaku culture always existed and that's all Levi ever was. Like at least make him have an obsessive personality and be hyperfixated on novels instead of talking manga in an era before Japan even existed. It's so unbelievably lazy and really takes me out of the story.

Another problem is we only really see him interact with family or people that could enact severe consequences like Diavolo & Barbatos or people protected by the exchange program. He never gets a chance to shine or be cunning. The closest we get is things like him purposefully trying to ruin Christmas for random people online in his Christmas card. I think if he genuinely got jealous of MC and some random demon he would summon lotan almost instantly.

It's especially painful knowing what we had & being so excited to get more only for all of that to get dropped.

In an early devilgram, Be You, Satan gets jealous and feels bad about not having much unique to him and Lucifer comforts him in his own way when the others make it worse. Mammon is the most empathetic though ofc. They also talk about horror movies and Mammon says he doesn't find them scary (& the way it's framed sounds honest, idk if it's a retcon or a lie,) and Satan says "I'm sure we've all witnessed plenty of real-life horrors worse than anything in the movies."

Then when Lucifer asks for a time when he was really angry Satan first casually then gleefully talks about torturing a family to death because a kid set him up to get scolded by their parents. Meanwhile the brothers act wary of him and worry about him getting out of control while Lucifer tells everyone to take cover for their own safety with a smile. Satan happily talks about them begging for their lives and says he wishes they saw it too.

Levi also says he hates hearing about people being happy, but likes hearing about the negative things. While Asmo and Mammon are freaking out he also calls Satan cool. Which shows at least a little bit of his envy for once. Satan also says just the aura of his rage is usually too much for humans which is also interesting.

But back to Diavolo and Barbatos, I don't hate how the whole torture thing isn't super open, it makes sense imo, but I would like to see hints of them hiding it. Especially if Satan or even attic Belphie was the one you could go to to learn more about it. If anyone would defy Diavolo for that it'd be them trying to bring Lucifer down with them, or even just Satan rewarding the hunt for knowledge and not understanding the human psyche fully.

Imagine if instead of a paper thin lie about being human we got a Belphie manipulating us by pretending he was locked up because he was against hurting humans and the whole exchange program was a scam? Or at least if he told us things no one else would about Diavolo that were true so we wouldn't trust him and etc. That's the angle I'm going with in my fanfiction at least, the original story is just so lazy and boring imo.

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of how they handled pacts either, especially considering they don't even get MC's soul. It's way too one-sided to the point where I don't believe someone like Satan would ever offer it, even if the first offer was a trick and he'd get your soul or something. I agree on the whole manipulation thing too, like how is it partnership if one side has complete control over the other?

Even just making it so that demons can fight against if they really don't want to do something like harming each other and having it corrupt MC would make it a million times better.

And that's so sweet, thank you! You've made my days a lot brighter too. Not much makes me happier than infodumping and complaining about Obey Me rn lol.

I really liked Satan's line there too, although I did wish he had more a reaction to everything tbh. That whole section felt a bit too easy imo though, like I kept waiting for it to all go to shit or something. I am glad they went back into more story-based chapters too. I hope they keep that trend and expand on it.

[zee-has-commitment-issues]

Zee, I would like to start by saying sorry. I didn’t mean to bring up horrible things talking about drama, you being “famous” from the asks, and your past. I had no idea, and I shouldn’t have said anything at all. I am so very sorry. Next, I am so angry on your behalf that any of this happened to you. This is horrendous. No one, especially not an adult, should have done anything like that to anyone (especially not a minor). There is no excuse for her behavior. 1/?

Hello again, my darling.

I want to start off by saying that you have nothing to be sorry for. You didn't cross any boundaries. If I really felt uncomfortable answering, I would have kept it to myself and deleted the ask. You didn't pressure me into posting anything I didn't want to. This story needed to get told somewhere, anyway. I've been keeping it to myself for too long.

I told you it was batshit, and I hope I delivered.

I wouldn't call myself blameless in this story. I was manipulated, yes, and I was groomed, yes, but I'm not completely blameless. Or at least I don't think I am. Idk maybe it's just the leftover mental illness saying that, I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't feel much joy in art anymore. It brings me back to a time I'd like to forget. I found my love for writing again, and that is enough for me. The fact that I'm writing something that I've posted and people enjoy is enough for me. I don't know if I will ever find joy in art again, which is a shame because I was really fucking good at it, but c'est la vie.

Yeah, people finding me was really fucking weird, and really fucking scary. I stopped tagging my friends and family in posts and I changed my fucking name. It hasn't happened in a while now, and I think I'm probably safe. The last time it happened was last year. Someone on my college campus recognized me, so that was really fucking awkward.

I'm thankful to my family and friends and my therapist for getting me through it. Honestly, I don't know what I'd do without them. I hope y'all understand what I mean now when I say that Dani is like one of my limbs, lmao. I genuinely can't live without her and she kept me sane throughout a lot of this - reminded me that I was allowed to have negative feelings about it.

Once again, darling, don't worry about it. You didn't do anything wrong. If I truly felt uncomfortable answering, I wouldn't have. There's a little "delete ask" option that I could have used. I'm not mad, or hurt, or re-traumatized or anything. It was a shitty situation, and it had a shitty aftermath, and I'm living with the consequences. It taught me lessons about life. Lessons I probably didn't want to learn, but needed to. And now y'all know a little more about me.

I'll leave you with this comment from Dani because I think it perfectly sums up what the fuck our lives were like in 2021:

We were fucking teenagers. And we still are.

[allsassnoclass]

hi again too many thoughts i don't want to hide in the tags: 1. "maybe the person you identify with isn't always the easiest to write" yes 100%, i write michael the most because i identify with him most However he's also the hardest to write. which is very strange to me, but yes.

2. that dating to fake dating idea caught my attention. that sounds very oof in the best way

3. i love that you love writing their friendships!!! it makes me so happy to see/read and it's why fics like puzzle pieces are so good i think (i'm all in favour of not putting romantic relationship above friendships. i think that's so important)

4. i just wanna say please rant all you want about being mad at people making fun of ashton. i will be mad with you. superbloom era also scarred me for that lmao i remember that we were both thinking the same thing last year. so!! yes all the way!!! let's not make fun of ashton just because we don't understand what eh's trying to say yeah :') i say that as someone who doesn't particularly identify with or relate to him. i still love hearing everything he has to say. sorry to bring your rant out of the tags lmao but i also feel VERY passionately about this :') -taylor<3

hello hello welcome back

1. it's so interesting how that works out! because you'd think that would make them easier to write, but it doesn't

2. i'm pretty excited about it right now. it's got some interesting stuff happening in it and as someone who doesn't do a lot of angst it's been fun to come up with ideas and be like "ooo. that will hurt the readers."

3. they make it so easy!!!! it's so easy to write 5sos fic because they have so much platonic love for each other that we get to see. if you're writing slash the love is there, you just need to switch it to romantic! and if you're doing some nice friendship stuff you have So Much to work with. and yes I am a very very firm believer that romantic relationships are not more important than friendships, which is also probably why the vast majority of my fics are friends to lovers, as you need to actually be friends with your partner for a romantic relationship to work out. anyway. i feel like having puzzle pieces be my third fic i wrote really set the tone in that regard

4. yeah i know that at this point the period of time i'm ranting about was over a year ago but the fact that i still get worked up really shows how much it got under my skin lol. my least favorite thing was that Every Single Time He Posted everyone would be like "what is he even saying he's so pretentious and incomprehensible" and like. i understood what he was saying every time. it made me feel really weird, like because i was on the same wavelength as him everything that they were saying about him also applied to me. it also was just frustrating because genuinely nothing he said was that hard to get. like it got to the point where he could've posted "i like apples" and people would've still said that he's pretentious and makes no sense. it genuinely made it a lot harder to enjoy his content, which was super unfortunate given that he was the only person posting and it was promotion for his solo album. in the circles i run in, ashton is always the one who people talk down about the most. and yeah, he's weird! he says some strange things! but that's his right because it's his social media. he can post what he wants. he also says some really beautiful things and he has really interesting ideas about human connectivity and our place in the universe. like, i'm sorry that you don't have enough empathy to take a second to leave your own ideas behind enough to see what he's saying? but don't ruin it for the rest of us.

it also really bothers me when, more recently, people call him privileged or pretentious for his mental health advice. he definitely is privileged (he's in a job that he loves, surrounded by people he loves, and he doesn't have to worry about financial struggles, which are things that negatively affect the mental health of a lot of people i know), but on twitter a few months ago someone asked him what helps him and he said something about gratefulness and i think he said something about how he finds yoga helpful because it helps center him. and i get why people would be like "yoga doesn't cure depression you idiot" but that's not what he was saying!!!! someone asked him what helps HIM and he answered. PLUS, little things like that CAN HELP if they work for you! changing your mindset from a more negative one to a positive one (making note of things you're grateful for, for example) can help you enjoy the little things more and lead to an overall more positive experience. and the physicality of something like yoga can also help with the release of different hormones in the brain that can help you, plus if it's part of a routine then those can help as well. (when i was in my Nightmare Internship we all were having breakdowns left and right. one girl started getting up early to do yoga every day because it was something that she used to do at home and it helped her start her day on a positive note, plus she really enjoys the physical feeling of muscles stretching.) he didn't claim that that's what cured him (we know the guy has gone to therapy. he has sought professional help for his mental health) but when someone asks him what helps him and he gives an honest answer it really bothers me when people call him pretentious or privileged for it. like, was he supposed to lie????? what do you want from him??????? it felt a little like that tumblr mentality of "this little thing isn't going to make me neurotypical so i'm going to hate you for suggesting it even if it could help make things a little more bearable." like. he never claimed that it would. he's not saying that you don't need to actually seek professional help. but if someone asks him about his own strategies for managing his mental health and he answers honestly i don't think he should get called privileged for it, especially when something like acknowledging things that you're grateful for is something that everyone can do regardless of how busy you are or how much money you have.

anyway. the way that people interact with ashton's content as opposed to everyone else's really bothers me sometimes. that rant did get away from me this time but apparently i have thoughts lol